Wednesday, May 23, 2007

Boosted J Boosted 60k?

There is a huge thread right now on TWO PLUS TWO forums about how Justin Smith AKA Boosted J is not paying someone back 60k. Boosted J claims he was being staked and The.Filth AKA yoguh12 from Party Poker claims it was a loan.


What is making it difficult for them to decide who is right or who is wrong, is the term "make up" and the term "stake".

Saturday, April 28, 2007
4:26 PM
boosted: yo
me: yo yo
boosted: I need a big favor
me: sup?
boosted: I need to ask you for a short term loan
boosted: I'm very short with online chips
boosted: I got plenty of money but not online chips
me: how much do u need?
boosted: probably as much as you can do, I'd like to borrow from a few different people
boosted: I dont know how much you trust me or w/e
boosted: but my word is pretty gold
me: i trust u
me: u going to wsop this year?
boosted: possibly, although I'm only still 19
me: um... how much are u looking to get?
me: ah i turn 21 on july 1st
boosted: what day does the main event start?
boosted: probably 50-60
me: july 6th
boosted: oh [censored]
boosted: good for you then lol
boosted: rip the donks
me: hahaha if i win i'll prob be the youngest winner ever
me: hahaha
boosted: heh
me: are u going to send me free money back as interest
boosted: :X
boosted: well idk
me: hehehe
me: i'll send u 30 ok?
boosted: that'd be great
me: when are u planning to send it back?
boosted: I'd appreciate it tons
boosted: I'd really like to send back to you
boosted: in 2-3 days
boosted: but
boosted: there's a chance that might not happen I'd say
me: k
boosted: I mean def within 1 month
me: okay
boosted: but way less
boosted: most likely
boosted: tyvm
boosted: for some reason
boosted: everyone is acting super stingy
boosted: its like dumb
boosted: I do lots of favors for other people
me: ahh yea
me: well i don't play on ftp anymore
me: and i still have a bit there
boosted: tru
me: so it doesn't really hurt me
me: unless u run away
me: hahahaha
me: what's ur name on ftp?
boosted: tight lol
me: boostedj?
boosted: "Boosted J"
me: k
boosted: a space
boosted: in between
me: it's sent
me: how much have u made from poker?

And here it drifts off...

So here the convo is just reg poker convo.. then the staking part.. then it goes to reg poker convo again.. and this is the whole chat relavent to borrowing and staking.

me: ah
me: cuz i play stars
me: and i'm thinking after i make 100 or 200k from 5/10 i may want to play 25/50
me: but it's always fr
boosted: same game
boosted: just gotta tighten up
boosted: man
boosted: I miss party
boosted: I hate stars
me: hahaha why do u hate stars?
boosted: I just dont like it
boosted: lemme throw this out there
boosted: I dont know exactly when these guys are going to pay
boosted: I would think in a week or two
boosted: instead of loaning me money
boosted: would you like some of my action and just BR me on FTP until I get my funds released?
boosted: stake me and I'll provide makeup if I lose
boosted: that way it's 100% no loss for you
me: whoa
me: what's in it for you though?
boosted: I borrowed 10k from someone else
boosted: and they are freaking out
boosted: that I'm playing 1 table of 25/50 ring
boosted: so it might be easier just to deal with you
boosted: and that way
boosted: I dont feel bad borrowing 30k from you
boosted: and I can play more freely
me: okay sure
me: sounds like a win win situation for both of us
boosted: I think so
boosted: I have $25k on ftp right now
boosted: if you give me another $10k I can pay this dude off
boosted: and I'll just play straight for you
me: okay
me: boosted j?
boosted: 50/50 chop
boosted: I keep good records
me: sounds fair
boosted: Boosted J
me: okay
me: alright it's sent
boosted: AA
boosted: can I trap someone
boosted: trying to bully this shortstack
boosted: lol
me: haha just opened up ur table
boosted: BOOOOOOO
boosted: niberns
boosted: go all-in
me: yea that's a good spot to call wiht AA
me: hahahahaha
me: i like it a lot
boosted: espagainst a shortstack
me: yea
boosted: if someone has 99
boosted: they repop
boosted: oh [censored]
boosted: lol
me: lol
boosted: good turn
boosted: I like it
boosted: I dont wanna bet flop
boosted: then if niberns CR's me
boosted: I have no idea where I stand
me: i think i'd like a Q turn better
boosted: yeah
me: then AQ QK are real confident
boosted: that works real well too
boosted: so kay
boosted: kay
boosted: just to finalize details
boosted: you sent me 40
boosted: but my account started with 25
boosted: when you started taking action
boosted: obv if you break even
boosted: until I get my money back
boosted: you'll get 40 back
boosted: not 25
boosted: you understand?
me: k
boosted: if you want me to
boosted: if you got UB I'll go rape bruiser
boosted: aka clowntown
boosted: lol
me: grimstarr lost like.. 50k to nlberns last night at 50/100 HU
me: nah i don't have any UB

ok um... i guess that's why it says I sent him 10k after the 30k... I'll find the chat where I sent him the next 20k... why in the world did i do that..

ok here it is.

boosted: we're [censored] down now
boosted: we were up like 5 total
boosted: literally 5 mins ago
boosted: that stupid hand
boosted: first hand
boosted: oh [censored]
boosted: pair + gutshot
boosted: in 3 bet pot
boosted: I whiff
boosted: I need more chips
me: u serious?
boosted: I'm on multiple tables
boosted: I didnt bust 40k obv
me: i'll send u 10k more k?
boosted: I guess it's up to you
boosted: this tournament donkey
boosted: is playing me
boosted: it's a great spot
me: 50/1?
boosted: Impreium
boosted: yep
boosted: he's got 77k on the table
boosted: from the last victim
boosted: KK here
me: meh i'll send u 20k more?
boosted: watch
boosted: look
boosted: you wtaching
boosted: I got KK
me: k
boosted: vs AK
boosted: all in pre
boosted: he hits
boosted: look
boosted: do you see that

In the conversation you can clearly see the words loan and stake. But he clearly says he will pay back the money. I don't know too much about Boosted J. I dealt with him a little with website stuff. I bought BoostedJ.com and a week later I got email from his webmaster saying Boosted J wanted to buy it. I told him I wanted 300$ for it and he said ok but he wanted me to transfer it first. I said we would have to use escrow.com and he said "He was trusted in the Poker world and for me to transfer it to him". I don't trust anyone so I posted it on Escrow.com. He never sent me the money there so I called him and he sent me the money on Full Tilt. I haven't transfered the domain because Godaddy won't let me until the 60 day period is over. So in my small time dealings with Justin Smith I got paid my money. I still own boostedj.net and plan on keeping it based on all the juicy traffic his name is going to send me.

I hope that these players arbitrate the matter and move on. One thing for sure, I'm not sending money to people online that I barely know. And if I sent someone 60k, I'd have
my lawyer involved before I transfer it.

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